tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7089081638604253564.post4788133609375103938..comments2023-11-03T06:12:35.213-04:00Comments on A Catholic Journey: Patient's Dillema and the Concept of Suffering~Joseph the Workerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07512362705041608396noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7089081638604253564.post-23470368333840181562009-05-22T19:07:30.467-04:002009-05-22T19:07:30.467-04:00"If we realized the important value of suffering, ..."If we realized the important value of suffering, we can understand that protecting life takes a precedent over protecting ourselves from that suffering."<br /><br />Key word being "value" should carry with it the agreement that the value formation in the given suffering individual is done with sacrificial intent. There are those that may stay hooked up to the liver machine, but internally are counting on a personal payoff of equal or greater value. <br /><br />I have and still find reinforcement biblically that obligation for suffering is a humility, dignity and confidence teaching of Christ (and Apostles) if only approached unconditionally. Thats where true love is found there IMO.<br /><br />Comprehension of this in the 18 inch lift from heart to head comes easy for some and hard for most.The Catholic Journeymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09985375857204313459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7089081638604253564.post-57839050784495572262009-05-22T14:02:09.924-04:002009-05-22T14:02:09.924-04:00Thanks Matt! I decided to reply to this as a new p...Thanks Matt! I decided to reply to this as a new post.~Joseph the Workerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07512362705041608396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7089081638604253564.post-75378950891154349522009-05-21T20:31:43.245-04:002009-05-21T20:31:43.245-04:00*But I'm NOT SURE (oops typo) whether those situat...*But I'm NOT SURE (oops typo) whether those situations ever come up or not.Matt Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09188134079188458182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7089081638604253564.post-69577637395219447202009-05-21T20:29:49.429-04:002009-05-21T20:29:49.429-04:00Hi, Joseph. I actually felt a little guilty for ha...Hi, Joseph. I actually felt a little guilty for having to think about that example for a few seconds before continuing with the rest of your entry :-).<br /><br />But yeah, I had like a two-hour with someone up at college about this, and he brought up the whole rape thing, and I told him basically what you said here. He just kept talking very rapidly and laughing at me. His argument went something like this:<br /><br />"I don't think we should let women have abortions, but I think it's going too far to make abortions illegal."<br /><br />At that point, I considered myself the winner.<br /><br />But I have a question for you. What about the life/death scenario pro-abortionists are so gung ho on? I don't really know enough about abortion to make a decision. I mean, if both the mother and child would die during the pregnancy or giving birth, I could perhaps see how abortion might be justified. Also, I would think if it's just a situation to where only the mother would die, she would probably be obligated to give birth to the child. But I'm whether those situations ever come up or not. What do you think?Matt Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09188134079188458182noreply@blogger.com